Jens Modvig, CAT Chairperson and co-rapporteur for France
asking the French delegation about IGM practices, Palais Wilson 19.04.2016, ca. 11:15h
Tue 19 April 10:00-13:00h + Wed 20. April 15:00-18:00h.
The Session should be archived at
StopIGM.org reported LIVE from Palais Wilson, and is currently completing the Unofficial Transcripts and Translations of Intersex Q&As:
Session 2, Wed 20.04.2016, 15-18h
18:02h: Chairperson Jens Modvig closes the session. Let's hope for strong binding recommendations to enact legislation to prevent IGM!
18:00h: Closing remarks by the head of the French delegation.
17:51h: Disciplinary measures in prisons ... 17:30h: Session resumed. Delegation now talking about statutes of limitations (NOT regarding survivors of IGM of course) ...
17:15h: Intermission! Phew ...
Ca. 16:50h: Chairperson Jens Modvig follows up on intersex children! As a doctor himself, he points out the counselling shouldn't given by the surgeons convinced of themselves, but by others, including by IGM survivors (peer support). YAY!!
«The last question I have is regarding the account on treatment of intersex people which is highly appreciated, but I think the worry here is, if those that do the treatment are those that give the counselling. Because you will always have a tendency, and I'm a medical doctor, I know it myself that we think it's so wonderful what we're able to do. And this gives a somewhat biased view. And I think the counselling that would be really useful to put in perspective the early surgery would involve much more neutral facilities, even persons who themselves have been subjected to intersex genital mutilation, so that parents and treatment people to a much larger degree could see the long-term impact of the treatment and actually the fact, that we don't know if it actually adds to quality of life. So I think this is maybe the desired situation, and not only that the surgeons themselves advise the parents. That could be considered a little bit too narrow.»
16:28h: Intersex children now up! The usual excuses so far ... "childs best interest" would justify unnecessary "treatments" ... "gender diversity" as a focal point, OF COURSE ... mostly verbatim the same old BS as in the French Senate earlier, and in front of the Committee on the Rights of the Child ... It's an OUTRAGE!! Transcript to follow!
16:22h: Psychiatric institutions now on: isolation, solitary confinement and use of restraints ...
16:15h: Senior police officers now answering questions regarding police violence and excessive use of force and (fire) arms, injury and deaths in custody, less lethal weapons, collateral damage, reports of sexual abuse by soldiers in Central Africa (statutory rape of minors), training on ethics, human rights, rules of engagement ...
16:01h: Now about training of security forces and medical officers (in detention settings).
15:51h: Moving on to vulnerable asylum seekers, and the "migrants in Calais".
15:46h: It's still about prisons, body and cavity searches, disciplinary measures, access to psychiatric care ...
15:06h: The session started now after a short delay (due to the French delegation failing to deliver their copies for the interpreters) and the live transmission is on! The first answers concern prisons.
14:46h: The French delegation just arrived, and today's session with the much anticipated answers of France to the damning questions by the Committee will start shortly. If everything works out, it will be transmitted live on the web. Anyways we'll keep you posted here!
Session 1, Tue 19.04.2016, 10-13h
Ca. 11:15h: CAT chairperson and co-rapporteur for France, Jens Modvig asked the French delegation about measures against Intersex Genital Mutilations in France! YAY!!!
«In terms of intersex children the Committee knows that in France
doctors in public and private clinics regularly perform non-consensual Intersex
Genital Mutilation surgeries on intersex infants and children despite the fact
that Intersex Genital Mutilation has been found to cause severe pain and
Please inform the Committee whether counselling services and psychological support are provided to intersex children and their parents on an obligatory basis. Does the State Party intend to take any measures to protect the rights of intersex infants and children?»
Ca. 11:30h: Committee member Sapana
Pradhan-Malla referred to previous criticism by CAT and others
continued to ask if France has any plans to to ensure access to redress and
justice for IGM survivors! YAY!!!
«My third concern is, we have also received reports regarding the cruel
and inhuman treatment of persons with intersex variations in France who are
submitted to involuntarily masculinising or feminising genital surgeries,
sterilising procedures, medical display, and unethical experimentation often
during the first years of their life.
Persons concerned witness that such treatments cause lifetime harm and
suffering, but such harmful practice is advocated by High Authority of Health
paid for by public health insurance and practiced in public university clinics
The Special Rapporteur on Torture as well as our Committee have made
many critiques of such practices in many countries and recommended to take all
appropriate measures to prevent such practice and also to ensure
And therefore we would like to know, Madame, if your delegation is aware about such human rights violations in your country and if any legislative measures are planned to prevent involuntary treatment and also if you are trying to make any effort to ensure justice to such a human rights violation. Thank you.»
12:59h: Chairperson Jens Modvig concludes today's 1st Session with France. The replies on intersex by the French delegation are due tomorrow during the 2nd Session, Wed 20. April 15:00-18:00h. To be continued ...
Intersex Genital Mutilations in
France: 2016 UN-CAT
Human Rights Violations Of Persons With Variations Of Sex Anatomy
IGM – Most Common Forms • What is Intersex? • How Common are IGMs?
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